Comments on: Almost very happy http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy From the mind of Philip Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:59:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: pvanhoof http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-602 pvanhoof Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:06:10 +0000 http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-602 @Garoth: I tried the procedure to migrate the multi-file vmdk format of my VMWare to vdi files for VirtualBox. After hours of migration work I tried using the seemingly correctly (size was ok, and the all tools returned success too) created disk-file as harddisk in VirtualBox. Upon boot it told me that there was a disk-sector error, and that I had to press ctrl+alt+del to reboot. I only have one disk in VMWare, although it's a multi-file vmdk. So the boot sector is on that disk. So unless VirtualBox makes a tool for this that'll just always work, I'm unlikely to migrate my Virtual Machines on VMWare to VirtualBox. But sure it's cool that there's an opensource VM with a useful UI that does somewhat integrate correctly within my desktop (so unlike Xen, who are primarily targeted at servers. Which is something me, as a developer, has relatively few interest in). So for now, I'm going to keep using the software Christian is working on. Although commercial software, it's one of the few titles in the market that absolutely deserved my money. Simply because I get real value back. @Garoth: I tried the procedure to migrate the multi-file vmdk format of my VMWare to vdi files for VirtualBox. After hours of migration work I tried using the seemingly correctly (size was ok, and the all tools returned success too) created disk-file as harddisk in VirtualBox.

Upon boot it told me that there was a disk-sector error, and that I had to press ctrl+alt+del to reboot. I only have one disk in VMWare, although it’s a multi-file vmdk. So the boot sector is on that disk.

So unless VirtualBox makes a tool for this that’ll just always work, I’m unlikely to migrate my Virtual Machines on VMWare to VirtualBox.

But sure it’s cool that there’s an opensource VM with a useful UI that does somewhat integrate correctly within my desktop (so unlike Xen, who are primarily targeted at servers. Which is something me, as a developer, has relatively few interest in).

So for now, I’m going to keep using the software Christian is working on. Although commercial software, it’s one of the few titles in the market that absolutely deserved my money. Simply because I get real value back.

]]> By: pvanhoof http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-604 pvanhoof Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:00:52 +0000 http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-604 Thanks a lot for the tip, suka! That helped a lot indeed. Thanks a lot for the tip, suka!

That helped a lot indeed.

]]> By: suka http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-603 suka Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:58:36 +0000 http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-603 @Philip: About debugging: Actually there is a way to disable it, they are just not telling ;) You just have to move lib/bin/vmware-vmx-debug away and make a symlink of the same name to the vmware-vmx file in the same directory. @Philip: About debugging: Actually there is a way to disable it, they are just not telling ;) You just have to move lib/bin/vmware-vmx-debug away and make a symlink of the same name to the vmware-vmx file in the same directory.

]]> By: Christian Hammond http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-606 Christian Hammond Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:35:27 +0000 http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-606 Garoth: VMware Workstation has had multiple snapshots for many years now. We've also had seamless support for a while in Fusion, it's just only recently moving into the Workstation product. Garoth: VMware Workstation has had multiple snapshots for many years now. We’ve also had seamless support for a while in Fusion, it’s just only recently moving into the Workstation product.

]]> By: Garoth http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-595 Garoth Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:58:14 +0000 http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-595 Again, Virtualbox. It's even open source now. It does way more than the current VMWare for Linux does. - Multiple snapshots - Seamless support (the feature you're on about) - Seems faster Again, Virtualbox. It’s even open source now. It does way more than the current VMWare for Linux does.

– Multiple snapshots
– Seamless support (the feature you’re on about)
– Seems faster

]]> By: Ryan Paul http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-598 Ryan Paul Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:01:13 +0000 http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-598 I'm another former VMware server user who has switched to VirtualBox. It's better and it gives you this feature too, though admittedly with some of the same problems (it doesn't like multihead either). I’m another former VMware server user who has switched to VirtualBox. It’s better and it gives you this feature too, though admittedly with some of the same problems (it doesn’t like multihead either).

]]> By: TimothyP http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-605 TimothyP Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:24:26 +0000 http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-605 I use Fusion on Mac all the time. Not because I need Windows on a Mac, I've got separate machines for that, but because it's a great tool to test stuff. Including the Ubuntu Live CD images we deploy for a certain project. Unity works great, and friends who've recently transfered to Mac are using it as well. Since they already have a non-oem licence for Windows it's a good solution. We're going to deploy a Windows 2008 server soon, so we used Fusion to test our applications on it. (Yes we have multiple Linux servers, so please don't burn me for deploying Windows servers as well, I honestly couldn't care less about the whole OS flame wars) If you're using multiple screens, it gets really nice. Simply put your other OS fullscreen on the second screen and it feels just like a normal computer. Oh and fusion doesn't slow down my Mac :-) VMWare workstation does offer great tools for developers, currently unavailable in Fusion, but that's because both products target a different audience. I use Fusion on Mac all the time.
Not because I need Windows on a Mac, I’ve got separate machines for that,
but because it’s a great tool to test stuff. Including the Ubuntu Live CD images we deploy for a certain project.

Unity works great, and friends who’ve recently transfered to Mac are using it
as well. Since they already have a non-oem licence for Windows it’s a good solution.

We’re going to deploy a Windows 2008 server soon, so we used Fusion to test our
applications on it. (Yes we have multiple Linux servers, so please don’t burn me for
deploying Windows servers as well, I honestly couldn’t care less about the whole OS flame wars)

If you’re using multiple screens, it gets really nice. Simply put your other OS fullscreen on the second screen and it feels just like a normal computer.

Oh and fusion doesn’t slow down my Mac :-)

VMWare workstation does offer great tools for developers,
currently unavailable in Fusion, but that’s because both products
target a different audience.

]]> By: Christian Hammond http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-601 Christian Hammond Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:50:16 +0000 http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-601 Sorry you hit these problems. It does happen on Metacity at times due to the focus stealing prevention, though I had thought these issues were fixed. I'll look into it further and try to reproduce it. What version of Metacity are you running? The issue of moving onto a second screen will go away when we add multi-head support. The shifting issue will also go away. Beta 1 is certainly not perfect. Consider it more of a technology preview. It'll rock by the time we finish up the release though :) Sorry you hit these problems. It does happen on Metacity at times due to the focus stealing prevention, though I had thought these issues were fixed. I’ll look into it further and try to reproduce it. What version of Metacity are you running?

The issue of moving onto a second screen will go away when we add multi-head support. The shifting issue will also go away.

Beta 1 is certainly not perfect. Consider it more of a technology preview. It’ll rock by the time we finish up the release though :)

]]> By: bronson http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-600 bronson Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:25:30 +0000 http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-600 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/01/how-to-do-seamless-window-integration-with-ubuntu-virtualbox/ I haven't tried it yet but it definitely looks easier than hassling with VMWare. (awful license issues) http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/01/how-to-do-seamless-window-integration-with-ubuntu-virtualbox/

I haven’t tried it yet but it definitely looks easier than hassling with VMWare. (awful license issues)

]]> By: Meneer R http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-599 Meneer R Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:46:22 +0000 http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-599 VMWare is a pig. Use openbox instead. VMWare is a pig. Use openbox instead.

]]> By: Remm http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-597 Remm Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:29:03 +0000 http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-597 I am not very happy with the whole concept of having to maintain two OSes (costs time and money, so I doubt any company will choose that as a real desktop solution). As I suppose it would be a more cost effective solution, how does Wine compare overall right now for running these few desktop apps ? I am not very happy with the whole concept of having to maintain two OSes (costs time and money, so I doubt any company will choose that as a real desktop solution). As I suppose it would be a more cost effective solution, how does Wine compare overall right now for running these few desktop apps ?

]]> By: bapt http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-596 bapt Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:15:07 +0000 http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/04/03/almost-very-happy#comment-596 If you had use the opensource virtualbox, you would have notice the seamless mode which allow you to do this for quite some time now. If you had use the opensource virtualbox, you would have notice the seamless mode which allow you to do this for quite some time now.

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