Change human biology its same distant as move to other star. And has lot of “open points” in this logic. How do you gonna push ALL humans to be modified? How can i trust bad people will not add another modifications? what if i dont want that thing on my baby?

I think its right to say we are inteligent to figure-out and fix before brake…

but… in my opinion. the right thing to spread its EDUCATION! Instead spend resources try to “biologicaly modificate and force ALL to accept that” we have to spend resources to EDUCATE all humans and promote better life style. Spread intelligence, education in world wide level

spread education, intelligence its more valuable then “force biologic modifications”. education and intelligence in world scale will be better not only for this fill-the-bottle point, but in MANY MANY others

think on that! (my 5 cents)

ps 1: i agree with “asp” comment

ps 2: check http://www.thevenusproject.com/ and Zeitgeist.Addendum. its lite “utopia” but a good logic exercise to reach the correct ideas

Here are some realities about that ’scientific’ worms in a bottle.

1) What happens to those worms when they reach full capacity? Do they just die off? Do they eat each other? Does the bottle break? There are a million and one ways nature can handle such a scenario.

2) Do the worms reach full capacity? Right now they are without predators but when dealing with overpopulation, what happens? First off all, they become toxic with their waste long before they reach 100% capacity. The majority die off, but the waste is converted back into food. (Think about this the next time you eat an apple.) A few lucky ones live on.

It gets better, there are signs in nature that when any population nears it’s maximum level, things happen that reduce growth. Predators find an abundance of food. Disease succeeds in ways unprecedented. Triggers in the species lower the birth rate. Etc….

You can argue that the same is happening to humans nowadays. There are a number of diseases that are threatening wide scale destruction. Educated people do reproduce less. People refuse to have many children in cities because they feel that a city is no place to raise a child. In New York City, getting your child into a decent pre-school is harder than getting into that overpriced trendy club where your child was conceived. In the past, diseases such as the Black Plague have done their job preventing overpopulation. (If a close relative has died in the plague, i apologize if you feel offended by that comment.)

One of the differences between human growth patterns and other creatures is that we modify our environment in subtle ways that help growth. Better medicine ups the child survival rate. New farming techniques up the yield. Minor scientific breakthroughs increase the ability to house people in one building, use slightly less fuel, create better more efficient tools and so on. You might say that we’ve been looking at these kinds of disasters for over 100 thousand years, but the reality is that we always figure out something new. It’s the difference between humans and many other animals.

If you really want to solve this problem though, here’s my recommendation. Have more children. You’ll raise children into a wealthy background where they have the best access to medicine and education. Furthermore, you can educate them to be responsible for the planet they will eventually inherit. Any time a child is born with poor access to good education, it’s one more person who will irresponsibly reproduce in the future. Rather than just relying on some social organization to help change the balance of education, you can change the balance yourself by having kids.

Forget this Malthus/Club of Rome bullshit about overpopulation, humanity’s progress was driven not by gathering resources but by creativity! 300 years ago oil was just something that would destroy your farm land, now it’s used everywhere. What changed in 300 years? We found ways to use it!

There was a movement with ideas like yours in the thirties in Germany. Where you think the ideea of “lebensraum” came from?

Please grow a brain, seriously, I’m not flaming or something, just grow one you really seem to need it, again no flame no trolling no insulting, you need to grow a brain. And you do that by reading, start with something about clasical renaissance, see how they saw human beings, you need to learn history.

And don’t forget this word, creativity, that’s how humanity evolved and not by gathering more resorces.

2) Worldwide demographic trends show that the rate of increase is falling. If those trends continue, then the world population will max out at somewhere around 8 or 9 billion. We can feed 9 billion people if we allocate resources fairly.

3) The rich consume much more then their fair share of the worlds food and other resources.

4) Quotas on scarce resources for the rich, who are in the minority, is fairer then forcing birth control on the poor majority.

For others reading this, Bartlett’s notable statement is “The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function”

For those that are interested, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Bartlett

And his famous presentation, “Arithmetic, Population and Energy”
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5051121482067161853

You’ve taken the choice not to have children (thank fuck) but thats your choice. You have no fucking right to dictate how other people live their lives.

Whats next, sterilising disabled people, enforced euthanasia for people over the pension age?

Anyone want to find those libertarians that keep trying to found their own country?

So, why not instead propose that we spend our effort, time and money on encouraging such good things as education for young children, especially young girls (even just a few years of primary education is enough to drastically affect fertility rate) and encouraging vegetarianism (since we’re much more able to provide a sustainable amount of food for the population if we eat it directly, rather than feeding it to animals first). The choice to have fewer children and limit population growth will come naturally, rather than as a coercive denial of control over our own bodies.

We could put a ban on fertilizers to decrease the output from agriculture and let people in Africa, India and China die. However this requires a form of morality that goes beyond the average TV viewer and looks at the broader picture.

However, space is limited. Right now, both in India and China tigers are being exterminated because of humans expanding their living territories.

There is only one option: exploration of space of colonization of other planets as foreseen by science fiction writers many years ago.

Anyway, the 20th century saw a rapid increase in life expectancy, but not in fertility, except for the post-WWII baby boom in Europe. Brazil, in example, had a rapid population growth in the last decades, but currently the “average woman” has less than 2,1 children in her lifespan, which means we are going to stop growing very soon.

I just don’t dare saying anything about population growth in China and India, and these countries are obviously very important when we discuss the world population.

Anyway, I’m not very pessimistic about the “finite resources”. The planetary limit is the energy coming from Sun, and we are very far from using a significant part of it. The human history is full of examples of technology improvements leading to increased efficiency in the use of resources!